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is asbestos still being used??? im so angry right now

Family · · 84 views
ok so im trying to understand how my mom even got exposed to this stuff. shes 68 and worked in office buildings back in the 70s and 80s. but i keep reading that asbestos is STILL legal in some forms and like... how is that even possible in 2025??

sorry im just really upset. shes doing chemo and im here trying to keep my teaching job and help her and every time i think about how this happened i get so mad. was it just in her building or is it still everywhere?

i dont even know what im asking exactly. just feel like the world failed her and nobody seems to care enough to ban it completely. anyone else dealing with this anger about how their loved one got sick?

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Family
hey, i totally get the anger. i mean, i was a teacher for 30 years and i taught kids about how we're supposed to learn from history and protect people... and here we are in 2025 and asbestos isn't even fully banned. it's infuriating honestly.

your mom's exposure from office buildings back then. That was probably the insulation, floor tiles, ceiling materials... all that stuff that just breaks down over time and nobody even knew it was dangerous. or they knew and didn't care enough. so yeah, it wasn't just her building, it was everywhere.

and the legal stuff now? there's still some asbestos products that are allowed because they claim they're "safe" if handled right, but like... we know better. it just makes you shake your head.

the thing that helped me was channeling some of that anger into actually doing something, you know? getting joe the best care i could find, learning about his options, connecting with people who get it. i couldn't change the past but i could affect what happens now. and that actually helped with the anger part... not saying it goes away completely but it gives you a place to put it.

how's your mom doing with the chemo? and are you holding up okay with everything?
Family
oh my god thank you for getting it. the fact that you taught for 30 years and still understand how messed up this is... that actually helps somehow. like at least someone gets why im so angry about it.

and yeah, the office buildings thing, her building had those drop ceiling tiles and i keep thinking about her just working there every day not knowing. she wasnt doing anything wrong, she was just... working. and now shes the one paying for it while the people who knew about this stuff probably never faced real consequences.

im sorry you dealt with that frustration too. did you end up finding ways to channel the anger into something useful or does it still just hit you sometimes?
Medical Expert Response
Your anger makes complete sense, and carrying all of this while keeping your job and being her caregiver... that's an enormous weight.

You're right that it's still legal here in limited forms. The EPA's 2024 rule banned chrysotile asbestos but older materials in buildings from that era are still a huge source of exposure. Your mom's office buildings from the 70s and 80s almost certainly had it in floor tiles, ceiling materials, insulation.

The grief and rage you're feeling about "how did this happen" is something I see a lot in our support groups. It's a real part of processing this. Journaling specifically about the anger, not to resolve it, just to get it out, can help so you're not carrying it alone. And if it stays heavy, talking to a counselor who works with caregivers matters too.

mesothelioma.net has good resources for family members specifically.
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Family
ugh yes i feel this so hard. i get angry too, like a lot. my mom was in office buildings back then and the insulation in the walls, the ceiling tiles, all of it just sitting there for decades. she didn't even know she was being exposed, you know? it wasnt like she chose to work around dangerous stuff.

and yeah asbestos is still legal in some products which absolutely infuriates me. i had to look this up because i needed to understand how this even happened to my mom and apparently theres still loopholes? it's not banned completely which feels insane when we know what it does to people. i think some older buildings still have it too unless it gets removed specifically.

the anger is totally valid. i snap at people sometimes when they act like this is no big deal or when they're like "oh well it was just how things were back then". Like that doesn't help her now. im a teacher so im used to staying calm but honestly some days i just want to scream about how unfair this is.

what helps me a tiny bit is focusing on what i can do for her right now, getting her to appointments, making sure shes comfortable, little stuff. and talking to people here who actually get it. the world did fail her in a way but youre showing up for your mom and thats something even when it feels impossible.

how long has she been doing chemo? the juggling everything part is exhausting i know.
Medical Expert Response
Your anger makes complete sense. And you're right that asbestos is still not fully banned in the US, which is genuinely maddening when you're sitting where you are right now.

Here's the factual piece that might help you understand your mom's situation. Buildings constructed before 1980 very commonly contained asbestos in floor tiles, ceiling tiles, insulation, pipe coverings... basically everywhere. Office workers in that era often had no idea they were being exposed because the fibers are invisible. Mesothelioma (cancer of the lining around the lungs or abdomen) has a latency period of 20-50 years, which is why someone exposed in the 70s is often diagnosed now. It's not random bad luck. It's a predictable consequence of known exposure.

On the legal status question. The US tried to ban asbestos completely in 1989 but that rule was largely overturned by courts in 1991. The EPA issued a stronger rule in 2024 under TSCA (Toxic Substances Control Act) that finally bans chrysotile asbestos, which was the last form still actively imported and used. So change is happening, just decades too late for your mom and thousands of others.

Your anger at that timeline is appropriate. It's not irrational emotion, it's a reasonable response to a real policy failure.

Please do talk to her oncologist about what treatment options are available and also consider consulting with a mesothelioma attorney about exposure history, because that information matters both legally and medically for understanding the source.

You're carrying a lot right now. That's real.
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Family
I get the anger, I really do. The fact that asbestos is still legal in certain products in 2025 when we've known about the risks for decades is honestly infuriating, and your mom's exposure in those office buildings during the 70s-80s was basically inevitable given how widely it was used in insulation, ceiling tiles, and HVAC systems back then. You're not alone in feeling like the system failed people who were just doing their jobs.
Family
Yeah, that's what gets me the most. She was just doing her job, you know? Going to work every day at a normal office building. She wasn't working in a factory or anything dangerous, just... sitting at her desk. And I keep thinking about all the other people in those buildings who probably got exposed and don't even know it yet.

The fact that it's STILL legal just breaks my brain. Like we know better now. We have the science. And they're still letting companies use it? It makes me feel crazy. Thanks for getting it, I needed to hear that I'm not just being irrational about this.
Family
You know what... I spent three decades teaching kids that rules are supposed to protect people, and then Joe got sick from something that's been known to be dangerous since before I was even born. So yeah, the anger is real and it's justified.

Here's what I've come to understand though. And maybe this helps, maybe it doesn't. But I had to stop letting the anger about how it happened eat me alive, because I needed my energy for what's happening now. The "why did this happen" questions don't change anything for Joe's treatment, you know? Like trying to teach a lesson to kids who weren't listening doesn't change what already happened in the classroom.

Your mom's exposure probably came from multiple places honestly. Those office buildings had it in insulation, ceiling tiles, flooring... it was everywhere and nobody really told people it was dangerous until way too late. And yeah it's infuriating that it's still not completely banned in 2025. That part makes me angry too.

But right now you're doing something really important, you're being there for her while you're holding down your job. That takes everything you've got. The bigger systemic stuff... that matters, but it doesn't have to be what you carry every single day on top of everything else.

How's your mom doing with treatment? And how are YOU holding up with all of this?
Attorney Expert Response
Your anger makes complete sense. And yes, unfortunately asbestos is still not fully banned in the US - that's not a misunderstanding on your part. The EPA attempted a comprehensive ban back in 1991 but a federal court largely struck it down. What we have now is a patchwork of regulations that prohibit certain uses but allow others. It's genuinely frustrating even from where I sit after 20 years of this work.

For your mom specifically, office buildings from the 70s and 80s are actually one of the more common exposure sources we see in litigation. Asbestos was used heavily in ceiling tiles, floor tiles, pipe insulation, fireproofing materials... basically the bones of those buildings. Workers didn't have to be doing construction. Just being present during maintenance or renovation work, or even in buildings where the materials were deteriorating, could be enough.

The good news legally is that her work history from that era may actually be well documented. Building owners, employers, and product manufacturers may carry liability depending on what she was exposed to and where. The statute of limitations (the legal deadline to file a claim) varies by state and typically runs from the date of diagnosis, not exposure, so there's usually still time to explore options.

If you're at a point where you can think about next steps, it may be worth gathering whatever records exist about where she worked and in what buildings. That information could matter.

Please do consult with an attorney who handles asbestos cases specifically for your situation - most offer free consultations and work on contingency so there's no upfront cost to at least get some answers.
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Family
oh wow okay so it wasn't just me being paranoid about this. the fact that there's still a patchwork instead of an actual ban is infuriating honestly. and 20 years of dealing with this stuff... i can't imagine. do you see this changing anytime soon or are we just stuck with how it is now? my mom's oncologist mentioned something about her specific exposure but i'm still trying to wrap my head around all of it.

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