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so can you actually sue if you were exposed to asbestos or is that window closed

Family · · 59 views
I've been thinking about this a lot since Joe got diagnosed in September. His exposure was back in the 80s when he worked at a shipyard down in Jacksonville, and I keep wondering if there's any point in pursuing anything or if that ship has sailed, pun intended.

I taught high school civics for 34 years so I know a little bit about how lawsuits work in theory, but this feels different. Like, does it matter that decades passed? Does it matter that he didn't know about the meso connection until we got the diagnosis?

I'm not even sure what "suing" looks like in this situation. Is it the employer, or the asbestos companies, or what. And honestly part of me just wants to know if other people have actually gone through with it or if everyone just goes the settlement trust route.

I guess I'm asking if anyone here has sued directly or if that's just not really how this works anymore...

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Family
My dad's exposure was also decades ago, construction sites in the 70s, so I get why you're wondering if the window closed. It hasn't. We consulted with someone about this back in August and learned that the statute of limitations doesn't start until diagnosis, which is actually pretty recent in legal terms even though the exposure happened forever ago. So Joe's September diagnosis means the clock is basically just starting.

The shipyard exposure is actually really solid documentation-wise. We had to dig through old employment records and OSHA stuff for my dad and honestly the paper trail from major employers like that is usually better than what we were dealing with. Doesn't guarantee anything but it matters for filing.

I won't get into the legal specifics because that's way outside my wheelhouse as a nurse, but I will say that people do pursue direct claims against companies in addition to or sometimes instead of trust claims. It's not one or the other necessarily. We found that having someone actually review Joe's specific situation was worth the time even if we ultimately went a different direction. There's no cost upfront for that kind of consultation.

The thing that surprised me was how much the timing of diagnosis vs exposure doesn't actually work against you the way you'd think. It's more about what documentation exists and what happened to the company that made or used the asbestos. Some are bankrupt, some aren't, some settled years ago. It's weird and case-specific.

I'm not gonna lie, dealing with the legal side while managing his palliative care has been exhausting. But knowing we at least explored it means we're not sitting here in six months wondering what if. That peace of mind mattered to me.
Patient
yeah man the window's definitely still open, my lawyer said they can go back decades no problem. worth talking to someone about it even if you end up doing the trust route instead.
Family
We actually looked into this pretty seriously after Joe's diagnosis in September, and honestly it was more complicated than I expected. The shipyard exposure in the 80s is actually good from a legal standpoint because there's usually documentation, but yeah the time gap is something they factor in.

What we found out is that the statute of limitations doesn't start from when he was exposed, it starts from when he got diagnosed. So that September date matters way more than the 80s work history. That's the thing that surprised me the most since I spent all those years teaching about how the law "should" work versus how it actually does.

We ended up going with a settlement trust route after talking to someone, mainly because Joe's energy is just... not there for a drawn out lawsuit process, you know? Between the immunotherapy starting in November and all the appointments and side effects, we didn't have the bandwidth for depositions and back and forth. But I know people who've gone the other route and it's absolutely possible, especially with clear shipyard records like Joe has.

The employer versus asbestos company question is something a legal professional would need to sort out for you because it depends on so many specifics about where he worked and what products were used. But those old shipyard jobs usually have pretty solid paper trails which honestly helps either way.

How far along are you in thinking about pursuing anything? Are you still in the fact-finding stage or have you already talked to someone about options?
Patient
yeah man the window's still open, I looked into this after my diagnosis last year. talked to a lawyer and they said even with decades passing the companies still gotta answer for it, especially if you didn't know the connection til now.
Veteran
Look, the window is absolutely not closed. I filed my VA claim in November after getting diagnosed in October, and my lawyer told me straight up that the statute of limitations on this stuff is way different than you'd think. Decades passing actually works in your favor sometimes because the companies knew about the dangers the whole time and kept quiet about it.

Here's what I learned real quick. The employer route and the asbestos manufacturer route are two different animals. In Joe's case at the shipyard, yeah you could go after the employer but honestly the real money is in going after the companies that made the asbestos products. Those manufacturers got sued into oblivion starting back in the 80s and 90s, so now there's these trust funds set up specifically for this. That's where settlements come from mostly.

I went the trust fund route myself because frankly the VA process is a nightmare and I wanted to move faster. Filed in November, got approval in early January. The trust doesn't require you to prove the company's still in business or anything. They just need documentation of your exposure and your diagnosis. Joe's got that from his work at Jacksonville back in the 80s.

The thing about not knowing the connection until diagnosis, that doesn't matter at all legally. Mesothelioma takes decades to show up. The companies knew that. They knew exactly what asbestos did and they shipped it out anyway. That's why the lawsuits exist.

Real talk though, find a lawyer who handles this. A lot of them work on contingency so you don't pay unless there's money. They know which trusts to file with and they know Joe's case inside out before you even sign papers.
Patient
Yeah man, we actually looked into this pretty hard after my diagnosis last December. The shipyard angle is good news for Joe honestly, those companies had deep pockets back then and a lot of em are still dealing with this stuff in court.

So here's what we found out. The window ain't closed, not by a long shot. Statutes of limitations are weird with mesothelioma because most states don't start the clock ticking until you actually get diagnosed, not when you got exposed. Joe's 80s exposure? That don't matter near as much as when the diagnosis happened in September. That's what counts.

We went with a trust route because my old employer from the auto shop days went belly up in the 90s, so that's where the money is now. But I talked to a couple lawyers who said direct suits are still happening, especially against companies that are still operating. The shipyard probably had multiple asbestos suppliers and contractors involved. Those companies are fair game.

What surprised me was how much detail they wanted. I had to dig up old pay stubs, photos of the shop, anything showing what I actually worked around. Found a brake pad box from 1987 in my garage that had asbestos warnings on it, and that alone helped nail down the timeline.

My advice? Get Joe a consultation with someone who handles this stuff. Don't pay them anything upfront. Most work on contingency so they only get paid if there's money at the end. Takes maybe an hour to figure out if he's got a case worth pursuing.

Good luck to Joe. That September diagnosis is rough but catching it early changes things.
Family
Oh wow, that's really helpful Carl, especially hearing it from someone who actually went through it. The statute of limitations thing makes sense now that you explain it that way - I was thinking it would be based on when he was exposed, but yeah, the diagnosis date as the starting point is a whole different ballgame. Joe's gonna be relieved to hear that window is still open. Did your lawyer end up recommending you go after the shipyard directly or did you end up doing the trust route?
Veteran
The thing nobody tells you upfront is that the VA claim and any potential lawsuit are two completely separate tracks, and honestly they move at different speeds. I'm still waiting on my VA decision from November while my lawyer's already gathering docs on the companies that supplied asbestos to Camp Lejeune back when I was there 1978-1982. The Navy knew what was in those barracks insulation. That's the angle right there - they KNEW. Your buddy Joe's shipyard situation is probably similar, meaning someone made a choice to use that stuff anyway. That's different than just bad luck from exposure. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it though, the VA bureaucracy is a special kind of slow. But the legal side moves faster once you get rolling. Tell Joe to get a consultation with someone who handles mesothelioma cases specifically. Don't settle for a general lawyer. The companies that made this stuff are still around and they've got deep pockets because they've been losing cases for decades. The window being open doesn't mean it stays open forever though, so I wouldn't drag feet on it.
Family
Yeah that's what I'm starting to understand, that they're totally separate things running at the same time. The "they knew" part is what gets me honestly. Joe mentioned his supervisor would literally joke about the asbestos dust, like it wasn't even a secret back then. Did your lawyer say the VA track actually helps with the lawsuit side or do they pretty much ignore each other?

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