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Peritoneal mesothelioma - is there hope?

Family · · 342 views Expert Answer
My mother was just diagnosed with peritoneal mesothelioma. She's 67 and otherwise healthy. The doctor mentioned something called HIPEC surgery as a possibility. Has anyone here gone through this? We've been reading online and the statistics are terrifying, but her oncologist says peritoneal actually has better outcomes than pleural.

I just need to hear from real people who have been through this. How are you doing? What treatments helped?

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Medical Best Answer
Sarah, your mother's oncologist is right, peritoneal mesothelioma generally has better outcomes than pleural, especially with cytoreductive surgery (CRS) and HIPEC.

The procedure involves removing visible tumors from the abdominal lining and then bathing the abdomen in heated chemotherapy. Recovery is significant (typically 2-4 weeks in hospital), but for patients who are good surgical candidates, the results can be meaningful.

Key factors that affect outcomes:
- Peritoneal Cancer Index (PCI) score, measures how widespread the disease is
- Cell type, epithelioid responds best
- Overall health and ability to tolerate major surgery
- Completeness of cytoreduction (how much tumor can be removed)

I'd recommend seeking evaluation at a center that specializes in peritoneal surface malignancies. The statistics you see online often include older data and all stages combined, which can be misleading.

Your mother's individual prognosis depends on her specific situation, not averages.
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Veteran
Hang in there, S. My situation's different, I got pleural, not peritoneal like your mom. But I'll tell you what I've learned in the last few months. The docs weren't wrong about peritoneal having better outcomes. That matters. What also matters is she's got a solid oncologist willing to talk about HIPEC, that's the right move.

I had my pleurectomy back in August and I'm 3 months out now. Recovery's been... it's hard work but doable. The thing is, and Dr. Chen and Patricia are both right about this, the surgery itself isn't the whole fight. It's what comes after. Physical therapy, getting your strength back, staying on top of follow-ups. I'm doing chemo right now and some days are rougher than others but I'm not sitting around. Stay busy, that's Navy talk but it works.

Your mom's got one thing going for her, she's got family asking the right questions. Don't let anyone rush her into anything without getting a second opinion. That's not paranoia, that's just good tactics. And the statistics you're reading online? Yeah they can look grim but they don't tell you about the people actually living with this, adapting, moving forward.

How's she feeling about the HIPEC option?
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Patient
I was diagnosed about a month ago, Stage II peritoneal, so I'm kind of where your mom might be heading with treatment planning. Dr. Chen's right about the outcomes being better than pleural, I've been digging through the literature and the five-year survival rates with CRS plus HIPEC are genuinely more encouraging than what you see with the other types. It's still serious obviously, but there is real hope here.
Veteran
Look S., I'm gonna be straight with you, peritoneal's a different animal than what I'm dealing with. I had the pleurectomy back in August, so I'm only a few months out. Your mom's got better odds than I do, no question about it. The peritoneal cases I've read about, especially with HIPEC, they're seeing some real results. Not guarantees, but better than what we're looking at with pleural.

What I'd tell you is don't get too hung up on the statistics right now. Yeah they're scary, but they're also old data on a lot of those numbers. Your mom's got good doctors who believe in what they're doing, and that matters. I went into my surgery knowing the score, didn't sugarcoat it. But you gotta focus on the plan in front of you, not the worst case scenario.

Make sure she's got good support lined up for recovery. That part nobody really tells you about. The surgery itself is one thing, but the weeks after... you need people around. I was lucky to have my crew checking in on me.

She's got this. And you've got this too.
Patient
Hey S., I'm pleural like Frank so I can't speak to peritoneal directly, but I'll tell you what my doc told me during my own scare. The peritoneal folks do seem to catch some breaks compared to us pleural guys. Your mom's got that going for her at least.

Here's the thing tho, and I'm only a few months out from my EPP surgery so still learning myself. But don't get too hung up on the statistics. Yeah they can be rough to read but they're looking at all kinds of cases, different stages, different ages. Your mom being otherwise healthy? That matters. That's like having a good engine before you do the rebuild, you know?

The HIPEC procedure sounds intense but from what I'm hearing around here the docs who do it know what they're doing. Just make sure she gets a second opinion if she hasn't already. That's not me being paranoid, that's just smart.

How's she doing with the diagnosis emotionally? That's the part nobody really talks about but it's real.
Family
Thanks Carl, I really appreciate that perspective. You're right, I know better than to get too caught up in aggregate data, especially when stage and histology vary so much, but it's hard not to spiral at 2am when you're the one who understands what all the numbers mean, you know? My medical background is kind of a double-edged sword in situations like this.

How are you feeling a few months post-EPP? That's a pretty major surgery and I'm trying to help my mom prepare mentally for what recovery might actually look like versus what the pamphlets say.
Patient
Yeah so here's the thing. I know you're scared, that's totally normal. But your mom's got something going for her that alot of us don't, and that's what the docs call "better biology" or whatever. Peritoneal really does seem to have more options and better numbers attached to it.

I'm only a few months out from my own surgery so I'm still in that honeymoon phase maybe, but what I've noticed talking to people here is the ones with peritoneal who actually do the HIPEC thing. They tend to be more... I dunno, active about their recovery? Like they got a real plan. Pleural guys like me, we're kinda just riding it out with radiation and the chemo tune-up.

Your mom should definitely ask her oncologist about what happens after HIPEC, like the rehab period and all that. That's the stuff they don't always volunteer upfront. And honestly, the fact that she's otherwise healthy at 67. That matters more than you might think. Doctors can push harder with treatment when they don't gotta worry about your heart or your kidneys giving out.

Don't let the internet statistics get in your head too much. Half those numbers are old anyway.
Family
My mom's pleural like your situation sounds different, but honestly the HIPEC thing gave me some hope when everything felt so dark. Her oncologist mentioned it might be an option too if things go that route, so I've been reading everything I can find. How is your mom doing with the decision on whether to do it?
Family
Actually my mom's leaning toward doing it. Her surgeon thinks she's a good candidate physically, which honestly scared me more than it reassured me at first because it means she's serious about this. I appreciate you mentioning it gave your mom hope, that means a lot right now. Has your mom started treatment yet, or are you guys still in the planning stage?

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