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Dark Waters movie - yeah it's real and it pissed me off

Veteran · · 1,685 views
So I finally watched that Dark Waters movie last month and man, it hit different when you know what asbestos actually does to you. The whole DuPont PFOA thing in that movie is real, happened in West Virginia, poisoned the water supply for years and the company knew about it.

But here's what got me. The movie shows how long it takes to prove a company knew something was toxic and covered it up. That's the exact same fight vets are dealing with right now on Camp Lejeune claims and asbestos exposure. DuPont kept dumping PFOA in the 70s and 80s knowing it was poison. The military knew asbestos was in our barracks at Lejeune when I was stationed there 1978 to 1982 and they didn't do a damn thing about it.

Mark Ruffalo's character in the movie spends like ten years fighting just to get discovery documents that prove what the company knew. That's where I am right now with my VA claim filed in November and it's still sitting in the pile. The system moves slow on purpose because that's how they win.

If you haven't seen it and you got exposed to something industrial, watch it. Not to feel sorry for yourself but to understand how this actually works. Companies and agencies hide stuff, it takes forever to prove it, and the people who got sick in the meantime are waiting for justice that moves at a glacial pace.

The contamination in that movie is real. So is ours.

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Medical Expert Response
What you wrote at the end stopped me cold. "The contamination is real. So is ours." That's it exactly.

I've sat with a lot of vets in my groups over the years and the anger that comes up around this specific thing, knowing that someone had documents, knowing that memos existed, is different from other kinds of grief. It's not just sadness. It's a very particular kind of betrayal and it deserves to be named as such.

The timeline parallel you're drawing is real. The Dark Waters case involved internal DuPont studies from as early as 1961 showing PFOA caused health effects in animals. Sixty one. And the community didn't get meaningful action until decades later. The Camp Lejeune contamination timeline has that same shape to it, known internally, documented, and the people living in it were just... there.

Your VA claim sitting since November is not you being forgotten randomly. You already understand the structural piece of this and honestly that understanding, as infuriating as it is, matters for your mental health too because it means you're not blaming yourself for the slowness.

One thing that helped people in my Wednesday group was keeping a running journal, not of facts for the claim but just of the emotional weight of waiting. Research out of UCSF found that expressive writing over even four sessions reduced psychological distress in people with serious illness. Doesn't fix the claim but it keeps the anger from eating you from inside while you wait.

If the waiting is getting heavy, please talk to someone. A counselor who works specifically with chronic illness or VA trauma can help carry this with you.
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Veteran
Yeah man that movie got to me too. Watched it right after my diagnosis last year and I was sitting there thinking about those barracks at Lejeune, the insulation falling apart in the walls, and nobody saying a damn word about it. We were just living in that stuff breathing it in every single day 1978 to 1982.

The slow burn thing Ruffalo's character deals with, that's exactly what I'm seeing with the VA right now. Filed my claim November and it's still pending. Got the surgery done in December at Balboa Naval Medical Center but the paperwork machine just grinds. They want you to run out of patience or run out of time, whichever comes first. That's not an accident.

What I realized watching that movie is the companies and agencies count on people getting tired. They bank on it. The depositions take years, the document discovery takes years, meanwhile you're dealing with Stage II pleural mesothelioma trying to figure out if you can afford treatment while you wait for them to officially acknowledge they poisoned you.

The Camp Lejeune water contamination was real, the asbestos in our barracks was real, and yeah the system is designed to move slow on purpose. But don't let that make you give up. Get a VA rep who actually knows this stuff, get your medical records documented, and push back on every delay. I'm doing that now and it's the only way to keep them from burying it completely.

You're not crazy for feeling angry about that movie. It's the same story they're running on us right now.
Veteran
Yeah that movie nailed it. Been waiting since November too and it's the same playbook every time - they know, they wait us out, and by the time anything moves half the guys are already gone.
Medical Expert Response
What you're describing with the timeline parallel is medically and legally accurate in a way that most people don't realize. The PFOA litigation in Parkersburg took decades partly because proving corporate knowledge of harm requires internal documents that companies fight tooth and nail to keep buried. The asbestos industry ran the exact same playbook, and there's a documented paper trail on it. The Selikoff studies from Mount Sinai in the 1960s and 70s showed clear mesothelioma risk from asbestos exposure, and internal industry memos from that era confirm executives knew. Lejeune's contamination records follow that same pattern of institutional knowledge without disclosure.

For your VA claim specifically, the PACT Act of 2022 expanded presumptive conditions for toxic exposure, which means you shouldn't have to prove causation the same way you used to. That's a meaningful shift on paper. Whether the processing backlog respects that shift in practice is... a different story.

I had a patient whose claim sat untouched for 14 months before we got a congressional inquiry involved through his senator's office. Filed the inquiry in March, got movement by May. Not a guarantee, but that's a real lever people don't always know exists.

Mesothelioma latency averages 20 to 50 years post-exposure, so your 1978 to 1982 exposure window fits the clinical picture exactly. Please make sure your oncologist knows the full occupational history in detail, not just "asbestos," but specific locations and durations. It matters for staging workup and treatment planning.

Talk to your own doctor about where you are clinically and keep pushing on that claim.
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Veteran
Yeah that movie stuck with me too. Same playbook every time, they know and they wait you out. Filed mine back in 2024 and still nothing.
Veteran
Watched that movie right after my diagnosis and yeah, it stuck with me. Same playbook every time they knew and did nothing anyway.
Patient
yeah that movie messed with me too, especially the part about how long it took to get the docs. my VA claim's been sitting since november as well and it's frustrating as hell knowing they probably got the records already but nobody's in a hurry to move things along.
Patient
I watched it twice actually, once when it came out and then again after my diagnosis in November. Second viewing hit completely different because I found myself tracking the timeline of what DuPont knew versus when they acted, and that's when I realized I should be doing the same thing with my own exposure record.

Started keeping a detailed timeline with dates from the Johns-Manville plant where I worked 1978-1985. Cross-referenced it against when asbestos was classified as hazardous, when the EPA issued warnings, all of it. My medical team is asking for this stuff now because apparently it matters for the HIPEC surgery evaluation. The movie actually showed me that this documentation piece is something I need to be actively building myself rather than waiting for someone to hand it to me.

What got me was realizing the company didn't need to hide documents about asbestos the way DuPont hid PFOA data. They just needed the regulatory agencies to move slow enough that most workers would be retired or dead before anything happened. That's almost worse somehow, because it's not even necessarily a conspiracy, it's just how the system was designed to work. I'm reading through the actual OSHA standards from the late 70s and comparing them to what we experienced in that plant and... yeah. They knew the exposure limits. We just didn't.

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