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can you actually sue your employer for asbestos exposure or does it have to be meso first

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Got this question from another vet at the VA clinic and realized I didn't have a straight answer. So here's what I'm trying to figure out.

I was a hull tech on the Oriskany from 71 to 91. That ship had asbestos everywhere. Insulation, gaskets, brake linings, you name it. We were working around it constantly and nobody told us squat about the danger. I didn't even know it was a problem until my diagnosis in June.

Now I'm wondering if you can actually file against the Navy or the companies that made the asbestos products before you get sick. Or does it have to wait until you actually have meso like I do.

I'm not looking to get rich. Just want to know what's actually possible here and if there's a timeline issue I need to know about. Anyone dealt with this before or know how it actually works for military service exposure.

Also if someone here is a lawyer or knows the law on this, I'd rather hear it straight than get sold a line of BS.

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Veteran
Frank D. here. Hull tech same as you, Oriskany 71 to 91. Small world.

So I got diagnosed June 2025 and went through the pleurectomy in August. During all that I had to talk to some legal folks about what was available to me. What I learned is you don't have to wait until you're sick to file. A lot of guys file based on exposure alone, especially military service exposure where the documentation is pretty solid. Ship records, duty assignments, all that stuff exists.

The thing is timing matters but not the way you might think. There are statutes of limitations on when you can file after diagnosis, and some of those windows are shorter than others depending on which companies made what. So if you wait until you're actually sick, you could be cutting it close on some of those deadlines. I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me, but the guys I talked to said getting ahead of it while you're still healthy and can gather your service records straight is actually the smarter move.

What worked for me was getting copies of my service records from the Navy showing I was hull tech on the Oriskany during those years. That's your proof right there. You don't need meso yet. You just need the exposure documentation.

Talk to someone who specializes in this. Not trying to sell you anything, just saying don't sit on it thinking you have to get sick first. You might not.
Medical Expert Response
Not a lawyer so I'll leave the legal specifics to someone more qualified, but I can speak to the medical and practical side of this having worked with a lot of mesothelioma patients over the years.

The short answer on the "do you have to be sick first" question is yes, generally. Most asbestos-related legal claims require an actual diagnosis because the latency period (the time between exposure and disease) can be 20 to 50 years, and courts have historically required demonstrable harm. A few states have "fear of cancer" claims but they're difficult and rarely successful from what I've seen my patients attempt.

What I'd flag for you specifically is the statute of limitations issue, and this is where timing genuinely matters. The clock typically starts at diagnosis, not exposure. So your June diagnosis is your starting point. I've had patients who waited 18 months after diagnosis thinking they had time and ran into real problems. Don't sit on this.

The military exposure piece is complicated. The Navy itself has sovereign immunity protections in most cases, but the manufacturers of those asbestos products absolutely do not. Companies like Garlock, Owens Corning, Armstrong, they set up asbestos bankruptcy trusts specifically because of this. The RAND Corporation published research in 2010 estimating over $30 billion sitting in those trusts. That's the avenue a lot of veterans end up pursuing.

Hull tech on the Oriskany from that era... you were in one of the highest-exposure occupational categories we know of. Please talk to your oncologist about documentation too, because your medical records become part of any claim.
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Veteran
Yeah that makes sense. The latency thing is what's been bugging me, since I was exposed back in the 70s and 80s but didn't know I had a problem until this year. So basically the clock starts ticking once you get diagnosed, not from when you were actually around the stuff. That's what I figured but good to hear it straight from someone who actually works with these cases. Appreciate you breaking that down without the sales pitch.
Veteran
You're asking the right question M. I had the same one after my diagnosis came back in June. Talked with the VA benefits folks and a couple other guys from the Oriskany who've been through this.

From what I understand you can't sue the Navy itself, sovereign immunity and all that. But the manufacturers of the asbestos products, yeah that's a different story. The timing thing matters though. Some states have what they call a discovery rule, meaning the clock starts when you find out the asbestos caused your illness, not when you were exposed. So technically you might be able to file even without a mesothelioma diagnosis if you had other asbestos related disease. That said, most of these claims happen after diagnosis because that's when you've got solid medical evidence.

I got my pleurectomy in August and my VA rep told me there's a lot of guys from the Oriskany who've already gone through this process. The Navy issued asbestos exposure records for our service dates which helped. The manufacturers are the ones with the actual liability insurance money anyway. Our exposure was their negligence, not the Navy's problem legally speaking.

Timeline wise don't sleep on it though. Some of these companies have gone bankrupt and set up trust funds with deadlines. You've got time but not infinite time. The guys I talked to said getting everything documented through VA first, your medical records, your service records, all that takes months anyway.
Medical Expert Response
What you're asking is something I've heard from so many vets over the years, and the short answer is... it's complicated, but not in a way that should discourage you.

From what I've seen working with mesothelioma patients since 2012, the diagnosis itself is usually what triggers the legal clock, not the exposure. There's something called a statute of limitations that typically starts running from when you knew or reasonably should have known about your illness. So your June diagnosis is actually the relevant date, not 1971. That matters a lot.

The Navy piece is tricky because the government has sovereign immunity protections, so suing the Navy directly is generally very limited. But the manufacturers of those asbestos products, the companies that made the gaskets and insulation you worked around, those are a different story. Many vets I've worked with have gone after the product manufacturers rather than the military branch itself and that's where most of the asbestos trust fund claims come from. There are actually over 60 active asbestos bankruptcy trusts right now holding funds specifically for people in your situation.

The Oriskany specifically comes up in the records I've seen. That ship had extensive asbestos documentation.

Please talk to an attorney who specializes only in asbestos cases, not a general personal injury lawyer. And separately, if the anxiety around all of this is sitting heavy on you, which it absolutely would be, a counselor who works in oncology can help you process what's happening while you deal with the legal side. Those two things together make a real difference.
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Medical Expert Response
The latency piece Frank mentioned is something I see cause real confusion for patients. With mesothelioma the median time from first exposure to diagnosis runs 35 to 50 years, which is why the Oriskany timeline you described, 70s exposure showing up as a June diagnosis now, is textbook in terms of disease biology.

One thing nobody's touched on yet that's worth knowing: there's actually a clinical distinction between a confirmed mesothelioma diagnosis and what we call "pleural plaques" or asbestosis, which are earlier markers of asbestos exposure that show up on imaging before any cancer develops. Some patients I've seen at our clinic in San Francisco have those findings documented for years before a cancer diagnosis. Whether that earlier documentation matters legally I genuinely can't say, but from a medical records standpoint it can establish a longer documented history of asbestos-related disease. Your pulmonologist would have that in your chart.

The SEER data on mesothelioma in military vets is pretty striking, about 30% of all mesothelioma cases in the US have a military service connection. So the VA system has actually gotten more structured around this than it used to be.

Talk to your own oncologist about getting your full imaging history documented clearly. It's the kind of thing that matters later and people don't always think to ask for it at diagnosis.
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Attorney Expert Response
The Navy suing question is one I get a lot, and Frank's right that the pathway there is different from going after the manufacturers. Under the Feres doctrine, active duty claims against the government for service-related injuries are generally blocked. So where the real action has been for guys like you is against the asbestos product manufacturers, and those cases don't require you to be sick first... but practically speaking, most states won't even let you file until you have a diagnosis because you need a cognizable injury.

Here's the timeline piece nobody's mentioned yet. Most states run a statute of limitations of 2-3 years from the date of diagnosis, not from exposure. California is 3 years under CCP 340.2. But some states have different rules, and if you've moved around since your service years it gets complicated fast. I had a client in 2019 who nearly lost his claim because he assumed his home state rules applied when the exposure actually occurred elsewhere.

The asbestos trust funds are also worth knowing about. A lot of the manufacturers that supplied the Navy went bankrupt and set up compensation trusts. Billions are still sitting in those funds. You can file trust claims alongside or even separate from litigation in many cases.

Talk to your own attorney about the specific jurisdictional rules that apply to your situation.
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Veteran
Appreciate you cutting through the noise, M.S. So basically what you're saying is the law might allow it but practically the states won't touch it without a diagnosis. That lines up with what I figured. And the Feres doctrine thing, yeah I've heard that name thrown around but didn't know it shut down Navy claims completely. Good to know where that stands.
Family
I'm not a vet and my situation's different since Joe was exposed through his work as a maintenance guy at a hospital back in the 80s, but I've learned a lot sitting in waiting rooms and talking to other families. What strikes me about your question is that you're thinking like a teacher, honestly. You want the facts laid out before you commit to anything, and that's smart. The timeline thing Frank mentioned is real, but from what we've seen the statute of limitations actually starts from when you're diagnosed, not when you were exposed. So you've got time to figure this out without rushing. We didn't move on anything until Joe had his diagnosis in September and even then we took two months just talking to different people before November when he started treatment. One thing nobody mentioned yet is how much the VA benefits and any legal stuff can actually overlap. Joe qualified for some VA stuff that helped with treatment costs, and that actually made the legal side less urgent for us financially. Not saying that's your situation, but it might be worth asking the VA benefits folks specifically if you qualify while you're figuring out the legal piece...
Veteran
Yeah appreciate you jumping in on this, Angela. The statute of limitations piece is exactly what I needed to understand better. So if it starts from diagnosis and not from exposure, that changes things significantly for guys who were on the Oriskany back then and didn't know what was happening to them. That's the real question for the other vets I know. Good to hear it from someone who's actually been through the waiting rooms instead of just reading about it online.
Patient
I can't speak to military exposure specifically since my situation was civilian factory work, but I've learned a lot about the legal side in the past few months so maybe some of this helps.

From what my legal team explained when we started looking at options in January, you generally can't sue for exposure alone. The cases that actually go somewhere are ones where there's a diagnosis on record. In my case they were pretty clear that having the peritoneal meso diagnosis from November opened the door, whereas if I'd just had imaging showing pleural thickening or something inconclusive, it would've been much murkier.

That said the statute of limitations thing is real and complicated. It doesn't start from when you were exposed at the shipyard. It starts from either when you were diagnosed OR when you reasonably should have known the exposure caused your illness. Since you got your diagnosis in June that's your marker. But there's also this thing called the discovery rule that varies by state, and military cases might work differently because of federal jurisdiction issues.

The Navy stuff is its own beast though. There might be different rules for suing the government versus the manufacturers. You'd really need to talk to someone who handles military asbestos cases specifically because that's not my wheelhouse.

What I'd say is don't wait around though. Get documentation of everything, your service records, medical records showing the exposure history and the diagnosis. I've been keeping detailed notes of my symptoms since diagnosis and it's helped when discussing treatment options with my oncologist. Having that paper trail matters.

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