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what exactly are tumor treating fields and should I be looking at them for peritoneal meso

Patient · · 58 views
So I got diagnosed in November with stage II peritoneal and my oncologist at Cleveland Clinic keeps mentioning TTFields like it's something I should seriously consider alongside HIPEC. I've read some stuff online but most of it is about lung cancer or glioblastoma, not meso specifically.

From what I can gather, TTFields uses electric currents to disrupt cancer cell division. The patient wears these electrode pads under their clothing and it runs continuously or most of the day. The FDA approved it for pleural meso back in 2018 based on the STELLAR trial data, which showed improved overall survival when combined with chemo.

But here's what I'm trying to figure out: the data I'm finding is almost entirely for pleural cases, not peritoneal. The mechanism should work similarly on peritoneal tumors since it's the same disease, just different location. My question is whether anyone here has actually gone the TTFields route with peritoneal specifically, or whether your oncologists presented it as an option.

I worked at the Johns-Manville plant outside Cleveland from 1978 to 1985 so my exposure was pretty significant. I'm keeping detailed notes on everything my treatment team recommends because I want to understand the actual evidence base, not just what gets pushed.

Has anyone looked into this or actually done it? And did your insurance cover it or did you have to fight for approval?

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Family
Joe's got pleural stage III so it's a different situation than yours, but his oncologist at Moffitt brought up TTFields too when we were looking at all the options back in November. We ended up going with the immunotherapy combo instead, so we didn't pursue it, but I did a ton of research because honestly I wanted to understand what we were saying no to, you know?

From what I gathered the clinical data really is mostly pleural like you said. That STELLAR trial showed real benefit but yeah it's all lung cases. The peritoneal stuff is trickier because the anatomy is just different and the electrode placement would work completely differently than on the chest. I found some smaller studies suggesting it might help peritoneal ovarian cancer but that's not quite the same either.

What struck me most when we were going through this was how much the actual oncologists seem to vary on recommending it. Joe's team at Moffitt was like "it's an option" but not pushy about it, whereas apparently some centers are really recommending it as standard. I think that tells you something about how much evidence there really is for peritoneal specifically. If it was clear cut I'd expect more uniformity.

The insurance fight is real though. We got told upfront it would be approved but the company that makes it also handles the prior auth stuff which always feels a little circular to me. You're smart to ask hard questions about the actual evidence base. After 30 years teaching I learned that the people who ask "why" and "show me the data" usually make better decisions than people who just do what sounds good.

Have you asked Cleveland Clinic if they have any peritoneal meso patients on it currently? That might be your best reality check...
Patient
That's really helpful to know you did that legwork even though you went a different direction. Did Joe's team give you any specific reason why they thought the immunotherapy combo was the better choice for his stage, or was it more just about what his particular tumor profile looked like? I'm trying to understand if oncologists are already making these calls based on peritoneal vs pleural differences that maybe aren't in the published literature yet. And I'm curious how Joe's doing on the immunotherapy route if you don't mind me asking.
Medical Expert Response
What you're doing, keeping those detailed notes and really pressing on the evidence base, that's exactly the kind of engaged approach that tends to lead to better conversations with your care team.

So here's what I can share from working with patients at our support center. The STELLAR trial data you mentioned is real and meaningful, median overall survival for pleural cases improved to 18.2 months with TTFields plus chemo versus 12.1 months without. But you've identified the gap correctly. Peritoneal is genuinely underrepresented in that data and your oncologist should be able to tell you whether there's any institutional experience at Cleveland Clinic specifically with peritoneal patients using the device, because some centers have been collecting that data informally even without a formal trial.

The insurance piece is where I've seen patients really struggle. Coverage for off-label use in peritoneal cases is inconsistent, and Novocure (the manufacturer) has a patient assistance program that some of my clients have gone through when insurance denied them initially. Worth asking about directly.

One thing I'd gently encourage... the anxiety of weighing all this while also holding your history at Johns-Manville, that's a lot to carry alongside treatment decisions. A few of the people in our Thursday support group have found that journaling specifically about their decision-making process, not just symptoms but the actual reasoning, helped them feel less overwhelmed when appointments came around.

If the emotional weight of this starts feeling persistent or heavy, please do connect with a counselor who specializes in oncology. That's not a small thing.
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Patient
Yeah my oncologist mentioned TTFields too but honestly all the good data they showed me was for pleural like you said, so I kinda punted on it for now. Might be worth asking Cleveland Clinic if they got any peritoneal specific studies since they probably see more of it than most places.
Patient
That's actually a really smart move asking them directly about peritoneal-specific data. I did that last week and my oncologist admitted the evidence base for peritoneal is way thinner than for pleural, which honestly made me feel better about being skeptical. She's referring me to a colleague who's been involved in some off-label peritoneal TTFields cases to see if there's anything published I might have missed. Have you decided whether you're going ahead with HIPEC instead, or are you still weighing options?
Medical Expert Response
What you're doing, keeping those detailed notes and asking for the evidence base, that's exactly the kind of engaged approach that tends to serve patients well in complex cases like this.

So here's what I can share from the clinical side. The STELLAR trial data you found is solid, 2.2 months median overall survival improvement for pleural, and Novocure has been expanding peritoneal research since then. There's a trial called STELLAR-2 that's been looking at peritoneal specifically, and as of early 2024 a few meso specialty centers were enrolling. Your team at Cleveland Clinic would know whether you're potentially eligible, they see enough volume that they'd have a read on current enrollment status.

The mechanism argument you're making, that it should work similarly regardless of location because it's the same biology, is actually how the researchers framed the peritoneal expansion too. The challenge is electrode placement and getting consistent field intensity to abdominal tumors versus pleural. Not impossible, just a different engineering problem.

On insurance, from what families I've worked with have experienced, it's been a real mixed bag. Some got approval fairly quickly when the oncologist wrote a strong letter of medical necessity, others spent weeks appealing. Novocure has a patient services team that will actually work the insurance piece with you, and that's worth a call regardless of where you land on the treatment decision.

Honestly, the combination question with HIPEC is where I'd really want to hear from your oncologist in specifics. If you're feeling like you're not getting enough depth in those conversations, a second opinion consult at a peritoneal meso center like Moffitt or UVA is something worth asking about.

And if the weight of all this decision-making is starting to feel heavy, that's completely understandable. Talking to a counselor who specializes in oncology can make a real difference, not just emotionally but in helping you organize your thinking and feel less alone in the room with your doctors.
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Family
My dad has pleural, not peritoneal, so I can't speak to your specific situation directly, but I've spent enough time in oncology spaces and honestly just obsessing over every possible treatment option that I've picked up some things about TTFields that might be useful.

You're right that the evidence is heavily weighted toward pleural cases. The STELLAR trial data is solid for that population, and the FDA approval was based on that. What I've learned talking to people and reading through the literature is that peritoneal meso is treated pretty differently in general, and adding TTFields to the HIPEC protocol is still kind of in the experimental category. That doesn't mean it's not worth considering, but your Cleveland Clinic team should be able to tell you if they're seeing any real-world data on peritoneal cases specifically.

The device itself works the same way mechanistically, yeah. The electrodes create an electric field that disrupts mitosis. In theory it should work on peritoneal tumors the same way. But peritoneal meso already has HIPEC as this pretty aggressive regional approach, and I honestly don't know if anyone's really studied how those two modalities interact or whether adding TTFields actually gives you a benefit on top of HIPEC or if it's just additional burden with no real gain.

What I'd push for is asking your oncologist whether they have data or even anecdotal experience with peritoneal patients on TTFields. Not just "is it approved" but "have you seen patients with peritoneal disease actually benefit." Insurance approval can be its own nightmare too. We had to appeal once for something with my dad back in August and it took almost a month even with my credentials helping push it along.

The fact that you're keeping detailed notes and asking about evidence base is honestly the right move. Most people just do what they're told and hope it works out.
Patient
The part about the STELLAR trial being specific to pleural is exactly what's frustrating me, because my oncologist kind of glosses over that distinction when we talk about it. Did your dad's team ever mention whether TTFields could theoretically work for peritoneal, or did they just rule it out because the data wasn't there? I'm trying to figure out if this is a "we don't have evidence so we don't recommend it" situation or a "this literally won't work for peritoneal tumors" situation, because those are two very different things. And honestly, with HIPEC as my primary option right now, I'm wondering if adding TTFields would even make sense logistically or if it's just something that sounds good because we're grasping at options.
Attorney Expert Response
The insurance angle you raised is worth understanding before you get too far down this road. TTFields for pleural meso got FDA approval in 2018 under 510(k) clearance, and that approval status matters a lot for coverage decisions, but peritoneal is a different story because you'd likely be looking at off-label use. Payers treat those very differently.

In my experience handling these cases, we've seen insurers deny off-label device use even when the oncologist has documented medical necessity, and the appeals process can run 60 to 90 days minimum. If your treatment timeline is tight around HIPEC, that gap could matter.

One thing that doesn't come up enough... your Johns-Manville exposure from that period is actually well-documented in the litigation record. That plant's asbestos use from the late 70s through the early 80s is extensively documented, which typically strengthens any claim significantly. I'd keep those employment records you're gathering, because the specificity of dates and location you already have is exactly what matters later.

Consult an attorney about your specific situation, but the combination of a documented exposure site, confirmed diagnosis, and a staged treatment record like you're building gives you a stronger foundation than most people come in with.
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Patient
I appreciate you jumping in on this because the insurance piece is exactly what I haven't been able to get a straight answer on. So if my oncologist wants to use it for peritoneal off-label, that's basically a separate approval process with the insurance company even though the device itself is already FDA cleared? And do you typically see them require like additional clinical data or physician justification before they'll agree to cover it, or is it more arbitrary than that? I'm trying to figure out how much pushback to expect before I even bring this up formally with my insurance.
Veteran
I'm pleural not peritoneal so I can't give you direct experience there, but I'll tell you what I know from talking to guys in different boats. The TTFields thing is legit for pleural, that STELLAR trial data is solid. I did chemo first, surgery in December, and my oncologist at UC San Diego brought up TTFields but honestly the timing didn't work for my staging and they wanted to watch things before adding more to the load.

Here's what matters though. You're right that most data is pleural. Peritoneal is different territory even if it's the same disease, and your Cleveland Clinic doc should be able to tell you flat out whether the evidence supports it for your specific situation or if they're extrapolating. That's a fair question to ask directly. Don't let them hand wave it.

On the Johns-Manville exposure, yeah you've got documentation which is huge for the VA claim side. I'm still fighting with VA on mine from Camp Lejeune 1978 to 1982, filed November and they're dragging their feet. Get your work history nailed down tight because that's leverage later.

Insurance coverage for TTFields varies wildly. I'd call your insurance company directly before you commit to anything and ask about the approval process for peritoneal specifically, not just pleural. Don't take the clinic's billing office word for it, they don't always know. Get it in writing if they say yes.

The detailed notes thing you're doing is smart. Keep pushing on the actual evidence for your case, not just what looks good on paper.
Patient
Yeah, that timing thing makes sense. I've been reading through the STELLAR data again and it looks like they enrolled almost exclusively pleural patients, which is what's frustrating me. My oncologist mentioned the stage and location matter a lot for whether TTFields actually makes sense alongside HIPEC, and I haven't found much in the literature about combining the two approaches for peritoneal cases specifically. Did your doctors give you any sense of why the timing didn't work out, or was it more about wanting to see how you responded to the first round before piling on?

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