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peritoneal vs pleural symptoms - what I'm actually experiencing and what to watch for

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Got diagnosed in November after months of what I thought was just stomach issues. I kept a symptom journal starting back in August because I was genuinely confused about what was happening, and I think laying out what peritoneal actually feels like versus the pleural stuff people talk about might help someone else figure out if they need to push their doctor harder.

With peritoneal meso the abdominal swelling and bloating is relentless. I was gaining weight in my belly but nowhere else, which sounds stupid when I type it but that's what made me finally call my GP. My pants fit fine in the waist but my abdomen felt hard and distended by end of day. The pain is this dull ache that gets worse when I eat, and I had nausea that I attributed to acid reflux for the longest time. Constipation alternating with loose stools, which I now know is pretty common with peritoneal because the tumor affects your GI tract directly.

Pleural meso, which is what most people get, shows up differently. Chest pain, persistent cough, shortness of breath. Fluid buildup around the lungs. That's what my coworker's husband had back in 1982 when we were both at the Johns-Manville plant in Cleveland, though obviously he didn't know what it was then. Took him years to get diagnosed.

The thing nobody tells you is how vague this all sounds. I was seeing my doctor about bloating and stomach problems and she kept saying diet or IBS. It wasn't until I asked specifically about asbestos exposure from my factory work that she ordered imaging. That's what changed everything.

If you worked around insulation, brake linings, old building materials anything like that and you're having persistent GI symptoms or chest stuff that doesn't go away with antibiotics or usual treatments, push for imaging. Specifically ask about meso. Don't let them treat you for GERD or IBS without ruling this out first.

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Family
Yeah, the vague GI stuff is what got my dad too - he was on omeprazole for months before anyone connected the dots. Glad you pushed for imaging when you did.
Patient
Man, that symptom journal thing is smart. I wish I'd done that instead of just complaining to my wife about feeling tired all the time. With me it was pleural so different ballgame, but I'm picking up on something you said about doctors not connecting the dots. When I finally got the imaging done in December, the radiologist actually asked me point blank about asbestos and I almost laughed because nobody had asked me that before. Turns out thirty years of brake pad dust in the shop adds up, plus my wife found asbestos in the old insulation when we gutted the basement in '98. That's probably the real culprit honestly. The thing that got me was I kept thinking my shortness of breath was just getting old and out of shape, which sounds dumb now. I'd be doing basic stuff in the garage and have to sit down, thought my lungs were just shot from smoking back in the day. Didn't mention it to my doctor for like two months because I figured it was normal. Once they found the fluid around my lung and did the biopsy, everything made sense backwards. So yeah, push for imaging if anything doesn't feel right. These things hide real good.
Family
This is so important what you're laying out here. Joe's was pleural but I remember when they first found the fluid around his lungs in November, the radiologist said "we need to rule out infection first" and they had him on antibiotics for two weeks before anyone mentioned mesothelioma as a possibility. That delay... it matters more than people realize.

What I wish someone had told us upfront is that sometimes the "common" diagnosis is actually masking something else. You go in saying you can't breathe right and they hear pneumonia. You go in with belly pain and they hear IBS. It's like teaching, honestly - sometimes kids struggle with math and you think it's a comprehension issue when really they need glasses. You have to look at the whole picture, not just what's in front of you.

The symptom journal thing is genius though. I started keeping notes on Joe's energy levels and what made his cough worse, and when I brought that written list to his second oncology appointment, the doctor took it completely differently than when I was just talking about it. There's something about having it documented that makes people take you seriously.

How are you doing with treatment now that you're a few months in from diagnosis?
Attorney Expert Response
This is one of the most useful symptom breakdowns I've seen posted here, and I want to say something from the legal side that connects directly to what you described.

The delayed diagnosis issue you're talking about, being treated for IBS or GERD while the actual cause goes unaddressed, that's a pattern we see constantly in peritoneal cases. In some jurisdictions it actually affects how the statute of limitations is calculated. Many states use what's called the "discovery rule," meaning the clock may start when you reasonably knew or should have known the injury was asbestos-related, not from the first symptom. California's Code of Civil Procedure section 340.2 is one example of how states have tried to address exactly this kind of delayed recognition.

The Johns-Manville connection you mentioned is significant. That company's bankruptcy in 1982 created the first major asbestos trust fund, which still exists and still pays claims. Depending on your exposure history and which products were present at your worksite, there could be multiple trusts and potentially multiple defendants involved.

I handled a peritoneal case out of a Cincinnati facility back in 2009 where the claimant had been told it was diverticulitis for almost 14 months. That diagnostic delay became part of the damages picture.

Your symptom journal starting in August, keep that. Dates matter enormously in this kind of litigation. Please consult an attorney for your specific situation, but that documentation could matter more than you realize.
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Patient
I appreciate you bringing up the discovery rule angle because that's actually something my oncologist mentioned when we were discussing my timeline. She said the fact that I was misdiagnosed for months might matter for legal purposes, but honestly I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of that while also figuring out if I'm a candidate for HIPEC surgery. Do you see a lot of peritoneal cases where the delayed diagnosis actually impacts the claim, or does it depend pretty heavily on what state you're in?
Patient
I kept a symptom journal too starting in September and I'm kicking myself for not pushing harder sooner, but reading your timeline actually helps because mine looked almost identical. The abdominal bloating that didn't match the weight gain is exactly what I experienced and my doctor also kept saying IBS until I brought up the asbestos exposure myself.
Family
oof, thank you for posting this because I'm dealing with something similar right now with my mom and honestly the vagueness is the worst part. She was complaining about stomach pain and bloating back in August and her regular doctor just kept saying it was probably nothing serious, maybe gastritis, try cutting out spicy food. By the time they actually did a CT scan in October it was already Stage III pleural.

what gets me is how much time we lost just... not knowing. and I keep wondering if we'd caught it earlier would things be different now? probably not but my brain won't stop going there at like 11pm when I'm grading papers and spiraling.

your point about pushing doctors harder is so real. mom's first oncologist actually tried to schedule her first chemo appointment before we even got a second opinion and I'm not normally a person who questions authority but something felt off so we went to MD Anderson in Houston (drove there ourselves in January, nightmare drive but worth it) and their team completely restructured her treatment plan. totally different approach.

I work full time teaching and moved to Phoenix to help with her care stuff and some days I'm just... I'm tired. not even physically tired, more like emotionally exhausted? but then I see my second graders doing something sweet and it snaps me back. I don't know if that makes sense.

anyway I'm really sorry you're dealing with peritoneal. that sounds incredibly painful and isolating because like you said most people talk about the lung stuff. how are you holding up with treatment?
Attorney Expert Response
This is one of the more detailed symptom breakdowns I've seen posted here and it could genuinely help someone catch this earlier than you did.

The peritoneal presentation you're describing, especially that localized abdominal distension with normal weight elsewhere, is something that gets missed constantly because it mimics so many benign GI conditions. I had a client years ago who was treated for IBS for about 14 months before anyone connected his symptoms to the 22 years he'd spent installing pipe insulation. By the time we got involved the staging was much further along than it needed to be.

The point about specifically naming asbestos exposure to your doctor is something I can't stress enough from what I've seen professionally. Clinicians respond differently when you say "I worked at a facility with confirmed asbestos materials from 1978 to 1991" versus just describing symptoms. It changes the differential diagnosis immediately.

From a legal standpoint, the symptom journal you kept starting in August is actually significant. Documentation of symptom onset matters in establishing timelines, and in most states the statute of limitations for mesothelioma claims runs from the date of diagnosis or when a patient reasonably should have known the cause, not from the original exposure. That distinction varies by jurisdiction though and can get complicated.

If you worked at Johns-Manville specifically there may be trust fund claims available separate from traditional litigation, since they went through bankruptcy proceedings in the early 1980s and established one of the larger asbestos settlement trusts. Worth exploring.

Please do consult an attorney familiar with your specific state's laws about your situation.
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Medical Expert Response
What you've written here is genuinely one of the most useful descriptions of peritoneal presentation I've seen on this forum, and I've been doing oncology social work for 12 years. The "weight only in the belly" detail is something so many people dismiss for months.

The misdiagnosis piece is real and documented. A 2019 review in the Journal of Clinical Oncology found peritoneal meso has an average diagnostic delay of over a year, partly because GI symptoms feel so ordinary. Your instinct to connect it to asbestos exposure is literally what changed the trajectory, and that matters.

Something I've seen help in support groups is exactly what you did, keeping that symptom journal starting in August. When someone brings written documentation of a pattern over time, doctors respond differently. It shifts the conversation.

For anyone reading this who's in that frustrating middle place where nothing is adding up... please don't wait. Specifically asking your doctor "could this be related to asbestos exposure" is a sentence that can change everything. And if the anxiety from all of this is becoming its own weight, a licensed counselor who specializes in oncology can help you hold that. Persistent fear and grief around a diagnosis like this really does benefit from professional support, not just coping alone.

Thank you for taking the time to write this out so carefully. Someone will read it at exactly the right moment.
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Medical Expert Response
This is one of the most useful symptom breakdowns I've seen posted here. The detail about abdominal girth changing while overall weight stayed stable, that's actually a textbook presentation of peritoneal meso and you described it better than most clinical write-ups do.

The diagnostic delay you're describing is well documented. The 2018 SEER data showed median time from first symptom to peritoneal meso diagnosis was over 6 months, partly because GI symptoms send everyone down the IBS or reflux rabbit hole first. You asking specifically about asbestos exposure is what unlocked the right workup, and that matters so much because early-stage peritoneal has meaningfully different treatment options than late-stage.

On the pleural side, I'd add that the chest pain tends to be unilateral (one-sided) and pleuritic, meaning it gets worse with deep breaths. People often describe it as a heaviness rather than a sharp pain. The fluid accumulation, called a pleural effusion, can develop slowly enough that breathlessness gets blamed on aging or deconditioning for months.

Anyone reading this who has that occupational exposure history, insulation work, shipyards, old schools built pre-1980, anything like that, and has symptoms that don't resolve with standard treatment... please bring the exposure history to your doctor explicitly. They may not ask. You may have to be the one who connects those dots.

Talk to your own oncologist about your specific symptom picture, especially if things are changing. And thank you for keeping that journal. That kind of documentation actually helps clinicians too.
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Family
Oh wow, thank you for laying this out. My mom has pleural and I've been so focused on her chest symptoms that I didn't realize peritoneal could present so differently. She's got the cough and the shortness of breath, which at least is more recognizable I guess, but reading your post makes me realize how lucky we were that her doctor took it seriously faster.

The thing that hits me is what you said about your doctor dismissing it as diet stuff. My mom was told her persistent cough was just asthma for like three months. THREE MONTHS. She kept asking about it being something else and finally in like late July 2025 a pulmonologist actually listened and ordered a CT scan. That's when everything changed. So I totally get the frustration of having to basically diagnose yourself because the doctors aren't connecting the dots.

Your point about asking specifically about asbestos exposure is huge. My mom worked in construction back in the 70s and 80s, mostly renovation work, and nobody ever asked her about that until we mentioned it ourselves at the oncology clinic. It shouldn't be on us to figure this out but it seems like it is sometimes.

I'm juggling my teaching job and helping care for my mom right now and some days I feel like I'm drowning, so I'm really grateful for people like you who take the time to write this stuff out. Even just knowing what to watch for helps. And I'm sorry you're dealing with the peritoneal version, that whole GI component sounds absolutely brutal on top of everything else.
Patient
The dismissal part is really what gets me, honestly. Your mom's cough at least had a symptom doctors recognize as potentially serious, whereas I was literally just getting told to eat more fiber. I'm glad her doctor picked up on it faster because that window matters so much with staging and treatment planning. How far along is she in terms of what they're recommending? I'm still in the decision phase with HIPEC surgery and trying to understand my actual prognosis numbers before we commit to anything.
Attorney Expert Response
This is one of the most useful symptom breakdowns I've seen posted here, and I want to say that as someone who has spent over two decades sitting across from clients trying to describe exactly what you've described.

The peritoneal presentation gets missed constantly. In my experience, the average delay between first symptoms and correct diagnosis for peritoneal runs somewhere around 6 to 12 months, sometimes longer. Your instinct to push specifically on asbestos exposure history is exactly right. I had a client in 2019 who saw four different specialists before anyone connected her abdominal symptoms to her husband's work clothes, which she'd been laundering for thirty years. Secondary exposure. Most people don't even know that's a thing.

From a legal standpoint, that symptom journal you've been keeping since August is genuinely valuable. Documentation of symptom onset matters when establishing timelines, and timelines matter because most states have statutes of limitations that run from the date of diagnosis or the date you knew or reasonably should have known of the connection to asbestos exposure. Those two dates aren't always the same, and how courts interpret that distinction varies a lot by jurisdiction.

So if you haven't already, keep those journal entries somewhere safe. And please, consult an attorney familiar with asbestos litigation for your specific situation before any deadlines pass. Most of us offer free consultations.

Your detail about the Johns-Manville plant in Cleveland is significant too. That's a well-documented exposure site with a long legal history.
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